tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post5366790359311000181..comments2024-03-14T03:35:39.631-04:00Comments on X-men Supreme: Scanned Thoughts: X-men Battle of the Atom #2Jack Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04929572842990203873noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-57657127200256163782013-11-06T08:13:55.338-05:002013-11-06T08:13:55.338-05:00I think you may be right. Just because someone is ...I think you may be right. Just because someone is from the future doesn't mean they're incapable of bullshitting you. In fact, I would argue that people from the future are far more capable of bullshitting everybody. But to be fair, the X-men have had better luck trusting others from the future in the past. So I think it's not entirely unreasonable that they would give the future X-men/Brotherhood the benefit of the doubt. <br /><br />But yes, I do think that if Jean broke the gates on the way out, that would have been infinitely more badass!<br /><br />JackJack Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929572842990203873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-75093596010483711022013-11-04T17:22:33.293-05:002013-11-04T17:22:33.293-05:00While not well explained on page (hopefully better...While not well explained on page (hopefully better explained in Uncanny), I think part of Kitty's anger is not only did they not listen to her, but they trusted the future X-Men without any real debate at all. Them turning out to really be the Brotherhood only made it worse. Add in the O5 moving away from the JGS and her reasons to leave became more important than her reasons for staying.<br /><br />I only wish Jean could have telekinetically ripped her name off the gates on the way out. I can't imagine she would be happy with the realization that he name is being used to divide rather than unite.<br /><br />Rothstein-SmashAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-80176972718491169222013-11-03T20:53:31.525-05:002013-11-03T20:53:31.525-05:00First things first, I love your reviews they get t...First things first, I love your reviews they get to the point while still being hilarious at the same time. I've got mixed feelings on Battle of the Atom. Granted I am not a fan of the O5 x-men at all so while I understand why it was focused on them I find myself having a hard time being interested. I like the present x-men and the only thing the O5 bring is Jean a character I have always disliked. I am interested in the fact that of the future x-men only the O5 Jean appeared which made me wonder what happened to the rest. Maybe they went back without her. Kid Omega began to say they couldn't go back yet but was cut off quickly. The good had to be what resulted. <br />Kitty left, I understand her reasons as she was ignored but honestly after adult Cyclops almost stopped existing I think her reasons are stupid. The kids have to go back or time will and may get seriously messed up. The O5 can get mad about there life being decided for them but they seem to be forgetting that there future selves are them, they made the decisions that resulted in what happened, well that and the random shit life throws at you which everyone gets. She broke up with Ice man which made me happy because frankly after her fit he should have broken up with her. One of the O5 is him, if the kid dies Ice Man of now will not exist. It's selfish of her to yell at him for being in favor of not wiping out his own existence. <br />Still I want to see how Kitty changes adult Cyclop's team, maybe she can see his point of view and since she's already seen and agreed with Wolverines maybe Kitty will be the one who can heal the Schism. And maybe Warbird will get a shot at Ice Man now lol. Nicholenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-86200600868791480382013-11-02T21:03:57.230-04:002013-11-02T21:03:57.230-04:00Alright, just going to put it out there...unless I...Alright, just going to put it out there...unless I seriously missed something really important, in which case you can ignore this comment like a plague.... this whole conflict couldn't have happened. At least with the information we currently have on our hands.<br />Think about it for a second, older Jean Gray NEVER went back to her original time. She was actually old enough that even Xavier, in the past, would notice that something was seriously amiss on her return. They even made a point showing how time reacts to changes (with Scott's temporal death). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07142995892342572320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-81492956897174252412013-11-01T10:38:34.929-04:002013-11-01T10:38:34.929-04:00I had a feeling this issue would generate a fuckto...I had a feeling this issue would generate a fuckton of comments and discussion. But once again, the wonderful readers of this blog surprise me. Thanks guys! Glad you're having fun commenting about this issue because it gave us a long list of shit to talk about. Based on what I've seen on message boards, a majority of fans didn't really care for this series. Most don't flat out hate it. They just didn't care for it. I still say that's a win considering how bad shit can go when an event walks the path of epic fail. I know it's a low standard, but hey it works for our education system. Rather than smart, it's okay if it just isn't stupid. Considering how fucked AvX and Fear Itself turned out, I'm perfectly okay with Battle of the Atom. I think it did a good job of shaking shit up. It would have been nice if the did less shaking and more refining, but I guess that would be too much to ask. With Thanksgiving around the corner, I think we as fans should just be thankful that Marvel isn't fucking shit up too bad...yet.<br /><br />JackJack Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929572842990203873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-43829985533727556672013-11-01T09:57:00.473-04:002013-11-01T09:57:00.473-04:00I liked this issue, but I didn't like the cros...I liked this issue, but I didn't like the crossover. I think it takes some time to "digest" what happened. In the end I think "nothing" happened b/c the message was "nothing changes." Humans and mutants never fully trust each other, the X-men won't reunite and even some of the 'beloved' members become a new brotherhood. You REALLY have to re-read BOTA #1 to understand anything. The Future Xmen/Brotherhood are battling Sentinels, so that should've been a hint. But the whole Animax assassinating Dazzler doesn't make any sense. Even if she were controlled by humans there's no explanation of that. The "remaining" brotherhood bothers me b/c there *shouldn't* be any left. They killed Deadpool, Xorna imploded, Beast was killed, the Ice clone was taken out, Xavier I hope would've died either from Illyana's slash, or not being able to get away from Xorna's implosion...that really just leaves Raze and Molly and neither of them are interesting enough to keep around. <br /><br />I liked Xorna calling out Scott & Wolverine's Schism and blaming them (she should've blamed Beast tho for bringing her to the future!). I liked the Storm/Emma exchange. Emma sounded like EMMA "I don't take orders from you, btw hows the marriage?" NICE!! I like that the O5 are changing schools b/c it's a nice "chapter 2" and hopefully the next step is them on their own, maybe a third school? <br /><br />I think Kitty & the O5 going to Scott's side is fake. When Scott first offered students to join his school the JGS talked about needing someone to go undercover. I think they're using this opportunity to do just that. IceColdEmmaFrostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-86761641334221499252013-11-01T03:25:28.019-04:002013-11-01T03:25:28.019-04:00Kymera seems focused and always ready to roll. Giv...Kymera seems focused and always ready to roll. Give her props, looking forward to seeing more of her as well. Maybe show Mom a thing or two of being the badazz she once was.<br />I felt Xorna would of been a masterful villian but having two Jean Greys would just been a bit overkill though. <br /><br />One guy to also keep an eye out on is Xavier Jr. He was weak (despite being ruthless, ill give him that), expected alot more out of him. So maybe him running the Brotherhood (present and future) can definitely showcase how dangerous this guy can be. I fully expect him to shake the mutant community (and Marvel universe for that matter) upside down.Znoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-63706978183075417942013-10-31T22:18:13.653-04:002013-10-31T22:18:13.653-04:00Is Cyclops a racist? His actions don't have an...Is Cyclops a racist? His actions don't have any resemblance to what Magneto did in his old crazy days, you're probably not reading Uncanny X-Men since the beginning, Cyclops said that they're not going to tolerate any harm caused to mutants, and that he knew the human support he's getting and that they were gonna fight for them too, I don't get why people say he's a racist or even compare him to Magneto when his intentions aren't the same... hiding in some old base somewhere... you get that they're fugitives, right? They're not gonna follow the rules just because for example Captain America or Wolverine said so but well, maybe you just a Wolverine fanboy... not that that's bad but even someone like you have to see all the points...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-88401988106476166992013-10-31T22:11:45.979-04:002013-10-31T22:11:45.979-04:00Liked the first half of the series, but then the p...Liked the first half of the series, but then the pacing was way off. Turn of events was too abrupt, which affected the gravity of events. Felt like I was reading a Cliff's Notes (for a comic!) Btw same thing is happening with Infinity. All of the sudden, the Builders are trashed and now an afterthought. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-53206194221029496412013-10-31T19:31:50.050-04:002013-10-31T19:31:50.050-04:00Give Logan points for trying to integrate with hum...Give Logan points for trying to integrate with humans, instead of hiding in some old base somewhere. If Cyclops and his crew don't like it, why don't they just build a colony in outer space. Problem solved. Bye bye, master racistLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929573314078578174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-16953214030611216392013-10-31T04:43:50.265-04:002013-10-31T04:43:50.265-04:00Magik isn't a bad person. She just have a misg...Magik isn't a bad person. She just have a misguided and screwed up sense of judgement. She's been broken several times and there wasn't anyone to be a positive role-model for her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-79705750821070052522013-10-31T03:47:52.804-04:002013-10-31T03:47:52.804-04:00I been patient for more than 10 years and its only...I been patient for more than 10 years and its only been worse and worse. I have enough. Like i say im done.<br /><br />And about Cyclops-for some time known as Smeghead, i never like that prick. And considering what he done to Madelyne Pryor and his X-force...He become X-men equivalent of Rimmer from Red Dwarf. (Jezz, i thing i have just insulted Rimmer.)<br />And Cyke's realy acted as Brotherhood - they have Magik there and they "Mutant revolution" sound like something from Magnetos old days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-49141548157065900562013-10-31T03:19:51.828-04:002013-10-31T03:19:51.828-04:00*Emperor's voice: Hate flows through you....Go...*Emperor's voice: Hate flows through you....Good..Very good.<br /><br />Lol but on a serious note. Be patient but I guess since you see Cyke's team as the Brotherhood....maybe that be asking for too muchZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-10803186152472277992013-10-31T02:34:03.557-04:002013-10-31T02:34:03.557-04:00I was not making any comments throughout the whole...I was not making any comments throughout the whole event until now... I liked the event, it was not that excellent (some details are not clear) but in the end I was satisfied with the ending. As I always say I'm not a Jean Grey fan, but I respect her a lot as a character, her presence was so much needed in this event, plus it made some justice for the character, you know... being dead and not taking a significant part on any storyline in some years.<br /><br />I'm very thrilled about what's going to happen next, Nightcrawler is coming back, Kitty joined Cyclops team (though I could see her still bitching about what he did, and tension with Emma as always) the O5 on their own and the upcoming crossover with the Guardians of the Galaxy, and finally what's next for the status quo of both schools.<br /><br />This is gonna be awesome.3rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16516421753286744107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-19843555867788584452013-10-31T02:24:49.756-04:002013-10-31T02:24:49.756-04:00Take it easy, it's not as if she will become t...Take it easy, it's not as if she will become that, her character needs more development that only time can bring if she gets featured on other teams, she was with the Runaways but she could join the X-Men in the future, I'm not a fan of her but I know how you could be feeling, just let this version of Molly pass, simple as that3rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16516421753286744107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-34585232245959285962013-10-31T01:35:09.653-04:002013-10-31T01:35:09.653-04:00I'm going to say it again, BotA ruined Molly H...I'm going to say it again, BotA ruined Molly Hayes, no one cares about Molly Hayes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-58937295152233645802013-10-31T01:29:22.506-04:002013-10-31T01:29:22.506-04:00The sad thing about Schism is that long-term, Wolv...The sad thing about Schism is that long-term, Wolverine was right. The problem is that for the immediate problem marching towards them, he was dead wrong, and had decided that it was his way or the highway. Since then he has gone off the deep end, and thinks that his right basic idea can be supported without any real foundation, and by putting trust in those who have been shown not to deserve it (Let's face it, in the Marvel U. the U.S. Government is pretty much a supervillainy group). He has now degenerated into screaming 'Scott bad! Scott evil!' instead of well, thinking even the slightest little bit. The loser of AvX wasn't Scott, it was Logan.<br /><br />Rothstein-SmashAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-66573136473615721272013-10-31T01:11:17.919-04:002013-10-31T01:11:17.919-04:00Here's the thing, I'm *firmly* on Cyclops&...Here's the thing, I'm *firmly* on Cyclops' side myself. I love it, Wolvie opens a school to get back into the business of teaching young mutants and keep them out of harms way. So what does he do? He reopens the same school that's been blown up at least a half dozen times, and has already drawn countless attacks. I'm sorry, Scott's right. He's an *idiot*. <br /><br />For the world as it currently is, Cyclops really *is* right.... given the choice between Logan's willful ignorance and Captain America, I'd take Cyclops any day. <br /><br />That being said, bring back the *real* Xavier (not this weird version we've had to deal with since Deadly Genesis), Adult-Jean, this isn't going to get fixed. There's too much baggage right now. It would either have to be someone old and trusted by all, or someone completely new and instantly capable of pulling it all together. Given that nearly every "new" character Marvel has made lately for the X-line in the last couple years has just about made me cringe, I sincerely doubt it'll be the latter.Barachielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15669985222203036979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-51659722258407275972013-10-31T01:10:58.591-04:002013-10-31T01:10:58.591-04:00Thanks for the review! Honestly, despite a strong...Thanks for the review! Honestly, despite a strong beginning, this event doesn't seem like it amounted to much. There was little character development, and seemingly nothing important changed. Logan and Scott still hate each other, with Logan somehow asserting himself as a moral authority. Beast still will not take any responsibility, and other characters like Storm, Rachel, Betsy, and Angel are still wallpaper. Also, given Bendis's penchant for throwing away his plot points, I'm not confident that the only major development that occurred, Kitty and the 05 leaving, will actually amount to anything important.<br /><br />On the plus side, we saw at least one Beast die, and Magik is still awesome! Thanks again for all the cool reviews.<br /><br />(Side-note: My friend told me about a a pretty awesome indie comic the other day, which has a lot of irreverent humor that reminds me of your reviews. www.manvsrock.com ... hopefully you like it!)Lonestar1428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-51533121479522496952013-10-31T01:08:09.688-04:002013-10-31T01:08:09.688-04:00Shadowcat joined Smegheads Brotherhood?!?!?!!??! I...Shadowcat joined Smegheads Brotherhood?!?!?!!??! In same group with that bitch Emma Frost and this monster Magick, who ruined her romance with Colossus and also him??!!!????! <br />Thats..thats it....im done. Earth 616 (Mainstream) is now oficially known as HELLHOLE and im totaly DONE WITH THAT! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-34323423171448658042013-10-31T00:28:21.114-04:002013-10-31T00:28:21.114-04:00@ RS: That is exactly what is wrong with her (and ...@ RS: That is exactly what is wrong with her (and the writers for that matter) She of all people is the kind of person (leadership, compassion, etc) who would of united both sides and not add fuel to the fire....<br /><br />@ Barachiel: When you put it like that, I have no other choice but to jump on that ship in hoping a new leader emerges and unite the X-men.<br />Ill give it a shot. Wolverine and Beast. (thought you might have a wildcard that I am not thinking of)<br /><br />Znoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-26540626321971083342013-10-30T23:23:37.182-04:002013-10-30T23:23:37.182-04:00@Anonymous Yeah, I agree with you there. She'...@Anonymous Yeah, I agree with you there. She's #3 on my Shit List as far as the X-Men go. Go ahead, guess who the first two are. :)<br /><br />@Z Oh, this being Modern-Marvel, the Schism won't heal anytime soon, but I'm glad to see signs that people other Cyclops think Wolverine isn't the best leader for the X-Men. Honestly, this needs to end with both stepping down and a new leader rising up to unify them all. No idea who could actually do that, without Xavier coming back from the dead. ... Well, maybe Jean. But she's dead too. So same issue.Barachielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15669985222203036979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-24910163384529530492013-10-30T22:18:54.809-04:002013-10-30T22:18:54.809-04:00Currently whenever Storm speaks I see Wolverine...Currently whenever Storm speaks I see Wolverine's lips moving......<br /><br />Rothstein-SmashAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-15873384303163285682013-10-30T22:11:50.417-04:002013-10-30T22:11:50.417-04:00I agree with you on that. It would do him and his ...I agree with you on that. It would do him and his team alot of good. Especially if the O5 works with the team on some capacity as well. The new mutants could also be reinvigorated by having new members working with them as well<br /><br />Kitty may be the bridge to finally being able to the put the team together but I also feel like that Storm should be doing that as well (had she not been written so poorly during this event).<br /><br /><br /><br />Znoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1917870048446264335.post-13285802729572531872013-10-30T22:00:17.876-04:002013-10-30T22:00:17.876-04:00I forget that Marvel tends to do events in trilogi...I forget that Marvel tends to do events in trilogies nowadays. This is only Act I, so nothing is really going to be resolved, merely set up.<br /><br />I like the idea of Current Cyke getting a better conscience than what he has had up until now. Magneto? Ha! Ilyana? Ha! Double Ha! Emma? Not quite at the level of derisive laughter, but even on the best of days she isn't much for a conscience. The closest to the 'acts as a conscience' personality that Bendis has mentioned has to be among the students, and they don't really cut it.<br /><br />The Teen O5 has to stay, but I doubt they will be sticking around in Uncanny. Teen Scott rates his older self slightly higher than he does Wolverine, so him sticking around the new Xavier School isn't likely. I think they will be striking out on their own soon. <br /><br />The interaction with people more on the moral high ground is likely to change the rest of the Uncanny cast, starting with Magneto. Kitty isn't likely to approve of his current methods as it is, and if he goes darker, there will be drama. Plus her addition actually gives both Emma and Ilyana an actual friend to interact with, which is something they both need.<br /><br />As a self-contained event I wouldn't rate BotA very high. As a set-up style mini-event (10 issues is much less than the big ones get when all the tie-ins are considered) it is much better.<br /><br />Rothstein-SmashAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com